Mixing Battery Chemistry : Li-ion and Li-po


I have about fifty brand new li-ion cells (18650 format) in my lab and I am tempted to build another battery pack for my bike .

The cells in question are 25 pieces of LG ICR18650C2 ( 2800mAh) and 25 pieces of Panasonic NCR18650B (3400 mAh) . 50 cells are not enough to make a battery composed of 20 cells in series , because of the low discharge capacity ( C rating). To buy more cells would be the easiest solution , but considering shipping , customs and cost of the cells (at least 2-3 dollars per cell with a minimum order of 100 pieces) is not a cheap solution.

Looking on the net, a well-known seller of RC toys and products ( HK) has very affordable prices for lithium- polymer cells. There is also a warehouse in North America and the shipping is not that expensive compared to the li-ion 18650 cells.

So I decided to mix the two different battery chemistry’s , Li-ion and  Lipo to get a battery with adequate capacity ( about 8- 10Ah is what I aspire to ) and discrete C -rating. On average I use between 4A and 10A on my bike on a level surface , with peaks of 35A (rare) when I am in a hurry.

I could not find any feedback on the feasibility and the behavior of the cells, so I decided to do some testing on my own.

The two types of cells have the same charge voltage ( 4.2v , 4.1V if you want to conserve battery life, prolonging the useful life cycles ), but different levels of low voltage , Lipo does not like to be discharged under 3.4v ( under load) , while with the li-ion can reach 2.5v ( under load) .

I have done several tests and the LVC mixing the two cells  (li-ion  and lipo connected in parallel) seems to be 3.0v . This way, at the end of the discharge LiPo cells are still cold woth no signs of “stress” , while the li- ion batteries are hot as usual , a typical behavior of this chemistry.

How  the tests were performed.

Cells used :

– Ah Turnigy 5.0 20C ( Lipo )
– LG ICR18650C2 ( 2800mAh)
– Panasonic NCR18650B (3400 mAh)

The cells were charged all at the same voltage and then connected in parallel . This way I obtained an 11.2Ah nominal battery . Then the battery was subjected to a discharge test using the CBA4 battery analyzer .
The discharge tests were performed at 5A, 10A and 15A continuous , stopping the discharge at 3.0v .

The tests compare two kind of batteries:

  • “Mixed” Li-ion +  Lipo battery which is 11.2Ah nominal.


  • “Pure” Li-ion battery which is 11.4Ah nominal.


Here are the results :

Let us look at the behavior of a battery composed of only 18650 cells with similar capacity (11.4 Ah nominal vs 11.2 Ah  nominal), discharged at the same current with the cutoff at 2.5v :

Now, we directly compare the test results of mixed cell with the “pure” li-ion cell of similar capacity.

As can be seen from the graphs the lipo cell contribute for the most part of the graph, trying to limit the voltage sag. When they are at the end of their capacity (3:45-3.60v on the graph), you can notice a drastic drop in voltage because only cells li-ion are contributing to the load.


6 thoughts on “Mixing Battery Chemistry : Li-ion and Li-po

  1. Please, explain a bit details of your test.
    So, you tried to mix 4 li-ion 18650 cells (11,2Ah total) with 1 Li-Po 5Ah cell? Ideally you should have 16,2Ah total capacity, but as a result of test you got only from 8,7 to 10,4 Ah only? Are my assumptions correct?

      • Thank you. Now it’s clear.
        Few notes:
        1. Lower voltage limit of LG C2 is 3.0V according to spec. Dangerous to discharge it to 2.5V.
        2. Upper voltage of C2 is 4.3V
        3. Most of C2 capacity is located in 4.25 – 3.5V range. For Panasonic it is 4.15 – 2.75V I guess. So, if you would mix only C2 and LiPo then I think you could get a bit more capacity since their working range more-less similair unlike with Panasonic.

      • Hi Andriy, the problem is that lipo have different LVC than Li-ion. Li-ion also sags a lot more than lipo so it’a a tough match. The LG C2 was fine with a 2.5v discharge on my tests.Of course during normal use it’s better to stay above the LVC to preserve cycle life and avoid damage to the cells.

  2. Hello! Can you give more info on this? Have you tested these cells in real life? And what was your conclusion about mixing batteries?

    I plan on using 6s4p li ions (panasonic CG), which has about 4A discharge, so 16A total and mix them with 6s lipo, 25c (5000mah).. Still trying to collect more info on this how it should be done better, someone from another forum suggested this thing:

    ”If you do use different capacity batteries try to make sure the smaller one has a higher internal resistance.”, which kind of recommends to increase lipo capacity.. but does not work great against the availability of li ion cells.

    So yeah, if you are still on this matter, your feedback would be great!

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